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The Lawfare Podcast

About That Border Wall

The Lawfare Podcast

The Lawfare Institute

International Law, Law, Government, Foreign Policy, News, Politics, Rule Of Law, International Relations, Current Events, Military, Constitutional Law, Intelligence, National Security, History, Terrorism, Diplomacy

4.76.4K Ratings

🗓️ 28 January 2017

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

President Trump kicked off the first foreign policy crisis of his new administration by signing an executive order mandating the construction of the much-promised border wall with Mexico, resulting in as-yet-unresolved confusion as to how the wall will be paid for and an ongoing diplomatic scuffle with Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto. Benjamin Wittes spoke with Stephanie Leutert, the Mexico Security Initiative Fellow at the University of Texas at Austin and writer of Lawfare's "Beyond the Border" series, to chat about what the wall might look like, how effective it will or won't be, and what this means for U.S.-Mexico relations. 

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A border wall would create a physical barrier,

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which would likely slow down any potential crossers

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who are still looking to cross on land.

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More likely, in all three of these different issues,

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it would push any would-be crossers into more creative routes.

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You already have, if you already have drug traffickers crossing underground,

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you have them putting drugs in the gas to tanks of cars

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that are going through legal ports of entry.

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They're sending drugs over with drones.

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With migrants, you might see more water crossings or also tunnels

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or also, again, paying off border patrols,

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to let them drive through the legal ports of entry.

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You'll find that people will do what they always do,

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which has become more entrepreneurial and innovative

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and look for other ways to cross into the country.

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