Good morning. Welcome to Axios today. It's Thursday May 5th. I'm Nyla Boudou. Here's what we're

covering today. Interest rates are going up. Plus a new law that could help close the gender

pay gap. But first, today's one big thing. Abortion providers prepare for a world without

Roe V-Wade. Abortion clinics, especially in red states, are bracing for the impact of a likely

Roe V-Wade reversal. And as Axios' Oriana Gonzalez reports, many clinics fear their abortion

providers will leave to protect themselves. Oriana's with me for more. Hi, Oriana. Hi, Nyla.

We know that if Roe is overturned, that means abortion is no longer federally protected.

So where would abortion providers immediately be violating the law by performing abortions?

So we know that there are 13 states so far that have trigger loss, which are

lost that exist that would make abortions illegal if Roe disappears. These would outlaw abortion

making them punishable by imprisonment and or very, very large fines. Majority of these states are

located in the south. There are a few that are located a bit north, but we're seeing most of these

in southern states. What are providers and staff at clinics in some of these states telling you?

What some abortion clinics have told me is that they fear that the few providers that they have

working in these clinics might have to resort to leaving these states and moving to blue states.

So consider California, New York, New Jersey, et cetera, all states that have codified the

right to an abortion that they would move there in order to be able to provide reproductive care

without being afraid of prosecution. Haven't we already though seen providers leaving

red states because of tightening abortion restrictions? Yeah, the difference is, though,

there are currently no abortion bands that specifically say that abortion is illegal.

So if the Supreme Court overturns where we wade, then what abortion clinics are expecting

is that there's going to be an even bigger difference between blue states and red states.

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