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Abigail Spanberger

Radio Atlantic

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Politics, News, Society & Culture

4.41.9K Ratings

🗓️ 13 November 2020

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

The Virginia Congresswoman shares her concerns over President Trump’s post-election actions and what she considers the lessons of 2020 for her fellow Democrats. Before coming to Congress as part of the Democratic wave in 2018, Spanberger spent her career as an undercover operative in the CIA. She talks about what it was like going from a false alias to a congressional seat, why she ran in the first place, and what she thinks when people compare her group of friends in Congress to the ‘Squad.’ Support this show and all of The Atlantic’s journalism by becoming a subscriber at theatlantic.com/supportus Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to the ticket, I'm Isaac Dauver. With the election now behind us, we're faced with a number of new questions.

0:18.0

What lesson should we take from the narrower than expected results?

0:21.0

Will Donald Trump concede to Joe Biden and allow a

0:23.6

transition to occur? And while the president refuses to leave office, the

0:27.6

pandemic is reaching new heights. Just how dangerous could these coming months

0:31.0

get? To help answer these questions, I'm joined this week by Congresswoman Abigail Spandberger.

0:37.0

Spandberger is a Democrat from a historically Republican part of Virginia.

0:41.0

With a narrow victory in 2018, she was part of the big class of

0:44.4

freshman Democrats who flipped the majority in Congress. After an even narrow

0:48.7

victory last week, she and her colleagues have been debating what the political

0:51.8

lessons were from this election.

0:53.9

However, the most pressing question after this election is what Donald Trump will do next.

0:57.9

He's refused to concede or start the transition. This is another expansion of undermining the basics of American democracy.

1:05.0

It's been a running theme of these four years.

1:07.0

But now it has national security implications.

1:10.0

And that comes as Trump fired his defense secretary and installed loyalists in the Pentagon,

1:15.2

and with worries of more purging to come.

1:18.0

So I asked Bamberger about all these developments.

1:20.2

Before she was a politician, she was an honest-to-god spy in the CIA, working undercover her entire

1:25.2

career there.

1:26.2

She talks about what it was like going from a false alias to a congressional seat, why she ran

1:30.0

in the first place, and what she thinks Congress needs to focus on now.

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