Hey, it's NPR's Book of the Day. I'm Andrew Limbaugh. So Nobel Lit Prize Day is always a

scramble for us at the culture desk at NPR. We've got some background info and research done on some of the

perennial names, people toss around. You know, always the bridesmaids, never the bride, that type of thing.

But when Abdul Razak Grana won, I admit, I wasn't super familiar with his work.

So I spent hours talking to his fans and peers and listening through some of his lectures to get his vibe.

And the big takeaway I got is that he's interested in mining the complexities of post-colonial life.

It's not as simple as just like colonizer equals bad.

That's something he gets into in this interview between him and NPR Scott Simon. It's about

Gernard's new book, After Lives. And Gernard talks about the attraction of power and how alluring

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