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discussion of We Are All Completely Beside Ourselves by Karen Joy Fowler. I'm Dan Coice. I'm the editor of the Slate Book Review, and I'm here in Slate's DC Recording Studio. Joining me here is the fabulous Hanna Rosen, a writer for Slate in the Atlantic. Hello, Hannah. Hello, fabulous, Dan. And joining us from our New York studio is New York Times Magazine staff writer and co-host of the Politics Gab Fest, Emily Bazelon.

Hello, Emily.

I feel like I should be part of this fabulous fest, but I think I'll just be my normal self.

I guess you're also fabulous.

First, I want to start out by talking about that decision to keep it from us until page 77 that Fern is not a person, that she's a chimp.

To me, it felt like really smart as a way to structure the novel, as a way to make sure that we

really see Fern's humanity and that it impresses upon us how important she is to her siblings

before we get distracted by the fact that she's not a person. But did it work for you guys, Emily?

It did work for me.

I think it's the only way for us to really absorb the idea that Fern is a sister instead of a pet.

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