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It's the 10% happier podcast. I'm Dan Harris. Hello my fellow suffering beings how we doing. We caught up with Abby Wombach at a very

interesting time for her. She is experiencing grief for reasons that I will let her

explain and for the first time in her life she says

she is grieving while sober which in itself is an interesting story which

she will also tell.

As you know, or at least I hope you know,

we only really talk to famous people on this show

if they're willing to go deep,

and it's why we call this recurring series Bold Face.

Abby Wombach is bolder than most.

We also talk in this interview about moving from external to internal validation, her definition of self-love, a concept in which I have a lot of

interest because it's simultaneously cheesy and life-changing.

The one question that changed her life, how every experience can be turned

into something positive and on a related note why getting arrested for drunk driving

was one of the best things that ever happened to her.

Abby Wombach is a two-time Olympic gold medalist

FIFA World Cup champion and six-time winner of the US

soccer athlete of the year award. She's the author of the number one New York

Times bestseller Wolfpack and together with her wife Glennon Doyle, a

previous guest on this show, and Glennon's sister Amanda Doyle, Abby co-hosts the award-winning

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