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We Can Do Hard Things

Abby On Healing From Religious Trauma

We Can Do Hard Things

Glennon Doyle & Audacy

Society & Culture, Relationships, Education, Self-improvement

4.841.1K Ratings

🗓️ 12 June 2024

⏱️ 71 minutes

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Summary

In honor of Pride month, Glennon shares an encore conversation that she and Amanda had with Abby about how she healed from religious trauma and found spirituality again. Originally titled, QUEER FREEDOM: How can we be both held and free? Abby, Amanda and Glennon discussed: -How Abby learned from church as a child to hate herself—and the healing moment she realized that God and religion are not the same. -The miraculous letter Glennon received from a reader the day after she came out. -Glennon’s response to the statement “I disagree with your lifestyle, but I love you anyway.” -When it’s time to either raise hell inside of—or leave—the institutions that require us to deny who we are or what we know. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello everybody. Today in celebration of our favorite month, which is Pride Month, we are sharing

0:09.2

one of our favorite episodes from the early weeks of the pod when Abby shared what she learned as a child

0:14.1

from church that made her feel shame for being herself and how she got free.

0:20.6

Hope you

0:25.0

to believe

0:29.0

the best people are free.

0:34.0

Hi everybody welcome back to We Can Do Hard Things.

0:39.0

Today the hard thing we are going to be discussing is queerness and shame.

0:47.7

And in particular the kind of false shame that many of us learn from religion. It's like we're handed the shame and

0:57.0

we're told it's from God, so we just take it without questioning it and we carry

1:02.3

it throughout our lives and we end up

1:05.0

walking through life a little hunched over.

1:08.0

Burdened, tired, angry about all the heaviness.

1:15.0

My wife, Abby, for example, she's a pro athlete,

1:19.0

champion, a beloved leader, an American icon, so many people adore her.

1:27.5

People have been cheering her on for decades.

1:30.0

But right beneath the surface of her is a little girl who learned that God rejected her.

1:36.4

And she carries that bad news and her bones to this day.

1:40.4

As you will hear in this conversation today.

1:46.3

There's lots of laughter and lots of tears in our conversation today so get ready.

1:52.4

Tears for me are a sign that the work is happening, that progress is being made, that healing is imminent.

2:00.0

It always makes me cringe when anybody says,

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