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Aaron Renn and Evangelical Elites (or why there aren’t any) [The Pugcast]

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🗓️ 30 June 2025

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

The Pugs are at the PCA General Assembly! And for their first interview from Chattanooga they welcome Aaron Renn back onto the show. After catching up with Aaron about his life following the Three Worlds of Evangelicalism phenomenon he's responsible for, the conversation shifts to evangelicalism and elites--or, why evangelicals can't seem to really develop any. By contrast, Roman Catholics have no trouble developing an elite class who go on to cultural prominence. So, why isn't that the case for evangelicals? Tune in and find out!

 

 

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0:00.0

Hello, welcome to Theology Podcast. We are here at the PCA General Assembly in Chattanooga, Tennessee,

0:08.2

and we're really pleased to be sponsored by SHM Architects. We're at the booth here. Our good friend

0:15.4

David Stocker, who is the S and SHM, has been a big supporter of the show over the years, and so we're really glad to be here in the booth,

0:24.4

and we are, well, we're the Pugs. And I'm C.R. Wiley, I'm a pastor. I serve a church in the Pacific Northwest,

0:31.3

and I've written a number of books. I'm a senior editor at Touchstone Magazine.

0:35.1

Why don't we kick it over to you, Tom? I'm Tom Price. I teach theology,

0:38.8

Christian ethics at Gordon Conwell Theological Seminary, and at least one of the famous triad.

0:48.7

All right, Glenn. I'm Glenn Sunshine. I'm a professor emeritus of history at Central Connecticut State University,

0:55.7

senior fellow Colson Center for Christian World View. And I have my own 501c3 ministry, every

1:02.0

square inch ministry that's at eSquare inch.org. And I just got back from doing a tour in Ireland.

1:07.3

And I'm still jet lagged. All right and we're joined by our friend Aaron Wren.

1:12.1

Aaron's been on the show a couple of times, but it's been a little while.

1:15.7

Yeah.

1:16.1

It's great to have you back.

1:17.2

Why don't you introduce yourself, Aaron, and then we'll get into some fun stuff.

1:20.6

Sure, I'm a writer and consultant in Indianapolis who writes about culture, Christianity, and sort of men's issues.

1:30.0

So sort of the intersection mostly of sort of future of the evangelical world and sort of the

1:36.1

dysfunction of society, particularly around men and aspirationally how those overlap as well.

1:43.6

But in previous life, I was an urban policy researcher,

1:47.5

and before that, I was a management consultant. Well, we're actually... I should say,

1:51.2

Aaronren.com. Go there, sign up. There you go. All right. Well, thanks. And perhaps people would

1:57.5

be familiar with your book, Negative World.

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