Hello, Fred. Thanks for being here. As always, I am flattered and downright honored to have you listening to The Tully Show.

I think you're going to like this week's episode. I had fun talking to Aaron Karnes about his book in the fence of Skah,

whether you are a Skah lover, a Skah hater, a Skah agnostic, Skah curious. Even if you don't know what Skah is, you might have a little bit of trouble with this week's episode.

Who the hell doesn't know what Skah is? It's going to be fine. It's going to be great. You're going to love it.

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Okay, you ready to start this show?

Oh, you're supposed to eat me. It's really funny, dude. I forgot his last name, but I've seen him before. He's really funny. I'll get up from Mike.

Coming to you live on tape from an above ground basement in rapidly gentrifying Culver City, adjacent California,

boasting a partially obstructed view of the world famous Hollywood sign. This is the Tully Show.

I am your host, Mike Tully, joining me today by his own description in his own words, a music journalist with a soft spot for Scott.

Today we will be discussing a book he has written about that oft maligned yet stubbornly stubbornly persistent punk subgenre entitled in defense of Scott.

Hello, and welcome Aaron Karnes.

Hey, how you doing? I'll just take I'll just take an issue with one thing you said.

I love it. Let's do it. Let's get right into it. Great.

I would say it's not fair to call sky a punk subgenre, even though the two styles have overlapped a lot in the last couple of decades,

but there are versions of Scott that continue to thrive that are unconnected to punk rock.

Terrific point. You know, I wrote that intro before I read about half way through your book. I would change that going back. You're right.

Who was the to pick one of you obviously know a million more examples than I do. Tim Armstrong had that band that he put on his label.

The interruptors. No, no, no, the interruptors I would say are a punk rock.

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