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The Investing for Beginners Podcast - Your Path to Financial Freedom

AAR30 - How When You Start Investing Matters

The Investing for Beginners Podcast - Your Path to Financial Freedom

Andrew Sather

Investing, Business

4.11.5K Ratings

🗓️ 30 December 2025

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

You can download Evan’s free monthly budgeting spreadsheet here: https://einvestingforbeginners.com/budget/ In this episode of At Any Rate, Evan Raidt is joined by Andrew Sather to talk about something most investors don’t realize is shaping their decisions: the market environment you “grew up” in. Andrew shares what it was like starting to invest in 2012 in the shadow of the Great Financial Crisis—when fear was high, bonds were still considered “prudent,” and energy stocks dominated the conversation. Together, they break down the pros and cons of starting in an up market, down market, or flat market, how recency bias and herd mentality mess with your judgment, and why the best antidote is simple: more education, consistency, and automation. Topics Covered: How your “starting market” imprints your investing mindset (up, down, or flat) Andrew’s 2012 investing experience vs. Evan’s late-2021 experience Recency bias, herd mentality, and why fear/greed can flip your decisions Practical ways to stay grounded: education, consistency, and automation Avoiding “next big thing” FOMO (AI hype, NVIDIA chasing, Buffett comparisons) Timestamps: 00:00 Why your investing “timeline” matters 01:03 Andrew’s first stock purchase 02:35 Post-GFC mindset 04:30 2012 market vibe 05:30 Why Andrew stayed frugal but kept investing 07:05 Evan’s late-2021 start 08:35 “This is easy” mindset—and the warning from a mentor 10:25 The moment it flipped 13:45 Three market “start” scenarios 16:05 Down-market cons 18:30 Greedy vs. fearful 24:50 Practical takeaways 29:15 Andrew’s advice for new investors today 33:00 Closing Resources Mentioned: Free monthly budgeting spreadsheet: https://einvestingforbeginners.com/budget/ Email the team: equity@einvestingforbeginners.com Email Evan: evan@einvestingforbeginners.com Have questions for Evan or Andrew about getting started (or staying consistent no matter what the market’s doing)? Comment below or email Evan—he’d love to hear from you. Remember, financial freedom is built one smart move at a time. Keep it simple, keep it steady, and at any rate, we’ll see you next time. Timestamps are generated by artificial intelligence, and are not 100% accurate depending on the platform used for listening. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Today’s show is sponsored by: Go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠SHOPIFY.COM/beginners⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to start selling with Shopify today. ⁠⁠⁠https://www.shopify.com/beginners⁠⁠⁠ Download the⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Plynk app⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ today to start building your investing confidence: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://plynkinvest.app.link/IFB⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠auraframes.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and use promo code BEGINNERS at checkout to get $35 off ⁠⁠⁠https://auraframes.com/⁠⁠⁠ Get your free quote and see how much you could save at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠SelectQuote.com/beginners⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Interested in how your company sponsor the show? Reach us at  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠equity@einvestingforbeginners.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠SUBSCRIBE TO THE SHOW ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Amazon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Tunein Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:31.3

The way I kind of frame it is there are three types of time periods in the market that you

0:36.2

could land in. So you could have an up time

0:39.0

where the market is just going up, up and up for that time period, down, of course, down,

0:43.5

down, down, or also where it's flat. I definitely think that having a flat market where not

0:48.4

that much is happening, not that much growth, not that much loss, can also have an impact

0:52.7

on you and your investing mindset. So for me, if you say you much loss, you can also have an impact on you and your investing mindset.

0:56.0

So for me, if you say you end up, you start in an uptime like I did, there's definitely the pros of seeing, okay, I can make money on this platform.

1:04.0

This is something that can... Morning, morning, morning, morning, everyone, welcome back to at any rate.

1:21.2

My name is Evan Ray, and we are here to help you make sustainable financial changes without breaking a sweat.

1:26.5

I'm pleased again to welcome back, my friend and one of the hosts of the other segment

1:30.1

on this podcast. Andrew Sather, how are you doing?

1:33.2

I'm good. I'm excited for this. Thank you for having me on again.

1:36.5

You guys continue to tolerate me and so I'll keep coming.

1:40.7

I'm a very, very patient person.

1:42.9

I feel like I bring this up at the beginning of too many podcasts, but it is still an important point of view, nonetheless.

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