AAR26 - How to Use Insurance to Build Wealth w/ Kim Butler

The Investing for Beginners Podcast - Your Path to Financial Freedom

Andrew Sather & Glassbox Media

Business, Investing

4.2 • 1.5K Ratings

🗓️ 2 December 2025

⏱️ 39 minutes

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You can download Evan’s free monthly budgeting spreadsheet here:https://einvestingforbeginners.com/budget/ In this episode of At Any Rate, Evan Raidt sits down with Kim Butler—founder of Prosperity Thinkers, host of the Prosperity Podcast, and bestselling author of Live Your Life Insurance—to break down how life insurance can be used as a tool for building wealth (not just protecting your family). They dive into the mechanics of whole life insurance: how it works, how you can borrow against your cash value, and why it’s more flexible than most people realize. Kim covers the pros and cons, compares insurance to other savings vehicles, and highlights the importance of control and flexibility in your financial life. Topics Covered: Why saving comes before investing How whole life insurance works (and why it’s not just for death benefits) Borrowing against your policy: what really happens Pros and cons vs. high-yield savings, bonds, and the stock market Timestamps: 00:00 Intro and Kim’s financial awakening 03:00 Lessons from 4-H, cows, and early entrepreneurship 06:00 The real role of life insurance and why people misunderstand it 10:00 How to use whole life insurance as a savings tool 15:00 Borrowing against your policy: mechanics and benefits 20:00 Pros, cons, and comparisons to other savings options 25:00 Flexibility: loans, skipping premiums, and paying yourself back 30:00 Building control and opportunity into your financial life 33:00 Kim’s special resource for listeners 35:00 Where to find Kim and final thoughts Resources Mentioned: Kim Butler’s Website: ⁠https://prosperitythinkers.com/special/ Prosperity Podcast: ⁠ https://open.spotify.com/show/0T5efslEuybSsGH6rlp1nn?si=6ca2f4a7256a40dc⁠ Live Your Life Insurance (Book): ⁠https://a.co/d/9YF1lAf⁠ Kim’s Website: ⁠https://prosperitythinkers.com Free monthly budgeting spreadsheet: ⁠https://einvestingforbeginners.com/budget/⁠ Have questions or feedback? Email Evan at [email protected] or comment below—your thoughts help shape future episodes. Remember, financial freedom is built one smart move at a time. Keep it simple, keep it steady, and at any rate, we’ll see you next time. Timestamps are generated by artificial intelligence, and are not 100% accurate depending on the platform used for listening. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Today’s show is sponsored by: Go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠SHOPIFY.COM/beginners⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to start selling with Shopify today. Download the⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Plynk app⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ today to start building your investing confidence. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Go to auraframes.com and use promo code BEGINNERS at checkout to get $35 off Get your free quote and see how much you could save at SelectQuote.com/beginners ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Interested in how your company sponsor the show? Reach us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected] ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠SUBSCRIBE TO THE SHOW ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Amazon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Tunein Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:54.9	get a $6,000 loan, solve the immediate issue, and then they tell the insurance company,
0:59.4	look, I've got $4,000 that's still available. Take that $4,000, borrow against it, pay the
1:06.2	premium, and that $4,000 will now be $5,000.
1:23.1	Welcome back, everyone.
1:24.2	Welcome back to at any rate.
1:25.4	My name is Evan Ray, and as always, we're here to help you make sustainable financial changes without breaking a sweat. And today I've got a particularly
1:30.9	exciting episode because we are welcoming Kim Butler to the podcast today. Kim is the founder of
1:37.3	Prosperity Thinkers, the host of the Prosperity Podcast, an Amazon book bestseller for books like
1:42.5	Live Your Life Insurance, and as an avid financial
1:45.1	educator and has been for quite a while who has helped thousands of people improve their
1:48.6	finances for themselves and for their families and their other loved ones. So it is fantastic
1:53.4	to speak today with you, Kim, and I'm sure I missed a lot already in that intro. Oh, you did great.
1:59.2	And it's so fun to be able to talk about some very easy things that people can do to really shore up their finances. And, you know, it's so funny because us Americans, holy cow, we want to talk about investments first, right? Like, that's the fun, sexy stuff. And yet, I think what our
2:19.4	conversation is going to delve into is a lot more about the word save as a verb, like the act of
2:26.0	putting money away and save beings as a noun, which I know is the slow, boring stuff, but it's
2:32.8	so critical to do before you invest.
2:36.1	Absolutely. I mean, yeah, exploring all those different mindsets because I personally, too,
2:39.3	can get caught up in the exciting, sexy stuff of investing and just focus on that because
2:44.2	it's cool and exciting. But there's definitely, you know, millions of other mindsets and points
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