AAR15 - Avoiding Financial Biases with John De Goey

The Investing for Beginners Podcast - Your Path to Financial Freedom

Andrew Sather & Glassbox Media

Business, Investing

4.2 • 1.5K Ratings

🗓️ 16 September 2025

⏱️ 41 minutes

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In this episode of 'At Any Rate,' host Evan Raidt is joined by John De Goey, author of 'Bull Shift,' host of 'Make Better Wealth Decisions Podcast,' and a respected portfolio manager. John shares his extensive journey to becoming a consumer advocate and financial advisor, highlighting his personal financial awakening. John discusses various biases, emphasizing overconfidence and recency bias, and how they impact our financial decisions. The conversation delves into the concepts of optimism bias and longevity risk and the importance of diversification. John offers valuable advice on preparing for economic downturns and the role of financial advisors in providing focus and discipline. He also recommends several insightful books on behavioral finance and shares his views on achieving financial freedom. The episode wraps up with John providing information on where to find more of his work, including his podcast and latest book. 00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome 00:33 John Dego's Journey to Financial Advocacy 02:40 Personal Financial Awakening 05:27 Understanding Financial Biases 08:13 Stagflation and Economic Concerns 13:47 Financial Goals and Industry Changes 28:10 The Role of Financial Advisors 31:59 Longevity Risk and Financial Freedom 35:28 Recommended Reading for Financial Literacy 39:32 Conclusion and Where to Find More Timestamps are generated by artificial intelligence, and are not 100% accurate depending on the platform used for listening. Please make sure you subscribe to John's channels and website. You can find him on his website ⁠johndegoey.ca, his podcast ⁠Make Better Wealth Decisions Podcast⁠, and buy his book Bull Shift, where all books are sold. Today’s show is sponsored by: Go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠SHOPIFY.COM/beginners⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to start selling with Shopify today. Squeeze the most out of your Summer with Liquid I.V. Tear. Pour. Live More. Go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LIQUID-IV DOT COM⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and get 20% off your first order with code INVESTING at checkout. Leesa has a lineup of beautifully crafted mattresses tailored to how you sleep – without the luxury price tag. Go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Leesa.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, promo code INVESTING for 25% off mattresses PLUS an extra $50 off. What do Dave and Andrew recommend? Our #1 recommended stock research platform is FinChat (now Fiscal.ai). Get 2 weeks access for free using our link (no card required): ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠fiscal.ai/ifb⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Have questions? Send them to Evan at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ SUBSCRIBE TO THE SHOW ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Amazon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Tunein Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Greetings, everyone. Welcome back to at any rate. My name is Evan Wright, and we are here to help you make sustainable financial changes without breaking us wet.
0:17.9	And today we've got another fresh face on the podcast. I'm grateful to welcome John DeGoy, author of Bullshift, host of the Make Better Wealth Decisions podcast, portfolio manager at Design Securities, an FP Canada fellow, a certified financial planner and a chartered investment manager. And with those five minutes of accolades in, and I'm sure I've missed some, it's fantastic to speak with you john how are you doing i'm doing very well evan how are you today i am doing fantastically today actually
0:43.4	good morning so why don't you start off by just telling us a bit about yourself other than the
0:47.4	you know bejillion things that i just stated about you and how you you know became an
0:51.4	initially became an advisor became an advocate for professionalism
0:54.2	and transparency and, you know, focusing on evidence-based advice.
0:58.1	Yeah, I was in doing my master's in a co-op program in Ottawa, Canada, and I was looking
1:05.1	at being a public servant. I was a master's in public administration. It's like an MBA only
1:09.7	for government.
1:12.6	And it's a co-op program. And so there were committee hearings being held for the government.
1:16.5	And the government of the day was Brian Moore's conservatives.
1:18.8	They were holding some meetings with regard to the proposed goods and services tax.
1:25.6	And I was sitting in on those hearings and realizing that I
1:30.3	had a real interest in the economy as a maybe a source of concern, maybe that I didn't really
1:38.9	realize before. And then in another work term, I was doing some work at consumer and corporate
1:43.9	affairs and I was looking into credit at consumer and corporate affairs and I was
1:44.7	looking into credit card rates and trying to help consumers make better decisions and
1:49.6	being more aware of that.
1:51.3	And it dawned on me before I even considered a career as a portfolio manager, as a financial
1:56.7	advisor, that I was a bit of a consumer advocate.
2:00.0	That it revealed itself to me. It wasn't something that I sought out. It just, oh, I guess I was a bit of a consumer advocate that it was it revealed itself to me it wasn't something
2:02.5	that I sought out it just oh I guess I'm a consumer advocate you know I didn't really realize
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