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This is above average intelligence, a production of the DSR network.

Each week, hosts Mark Polymerropolis and David Rothkov are joined by leading experts from the intelligence community for expert

analysis on the biggest security challenges around the podcast. I'm Mark Polymeropolis and this is

DSR's above average intelligence show. Today I am honored to welcome as my

guest Mr Mark Mazz, this is a great honor for me. It's kind of ironic since when I was at the CIA, Mark wrote about the CIA and I probably read all of his books and grumbled that about his access but Mark is a superstar journalist of

the highest order on national security he's covered Middle East and

terrorism issues for decades traveling extensively in the Middle East, Central and South Asia.

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