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The Behavioral Observations Podcast with Matt Cicoria

AAC Use with adolescents and adults with ASD: Session 254 with Andy Bondy

The Behavioral Observations Podcast with Matt Cicoria

Matt Cicoria

Science, Mental Health, Skinner, Behaviorism, Behaviorconsultant, Aba, Behavioralpsychology, Health & Fitness, Appliedbehavioranalysis, Autism, Acceptanceandcommitmenttherapy, Fba, Social Sciences, Verbalbehavior, Bcba, Functionalassessment, Discretetrial

4.8648 Ratings

🗓️ 1 February 2024

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

Fan-favorite Dr. Andy Bondy joins me again to talk about... you guessed it... AAC!

In this episode, we discuss a paper he published last year in the journal, Advances in Neurodevelopmental Disorders, that is titled, "Issues Related to AAC and SGD Use by Adolescents and Adults with Autism Spectrum Disorder."

We get into why he felt this paper was necessary to write, how he chose to communicate his thoughts to an audience beyond those of us in behavior analysis, why he likes the term, "under what conditions" so much, what does and does not constitute a "robust" communication repertoire, the role of teaching words like "please" and Andy's nuanced view of this practice, whether the sound from Speech Generation Devices matter, and lots more. 

We also got into a really interesting discussion on the distinction between pointing to pictures vs. exchanging them with communicative partners, and how that difference impacts Joint Attention. 

We closed the show by talking about two topics that have been receiving lots of discussion as of late: Spelling to Communicate and Gestalt Language Processing. Lastly, ended the show by taking a question from a Patreon member about Andy's thoughts regarding the use of activity schedules, and whether they qualify as prompts, or something else. 

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey, everyone, welcome to session 254 of the Behavioral Observations podcast.

0:05.9

Fan favorite Dr. Andy Bondi joins me again to talk about, you guessed, at AAC.

0:10.9

And in this episode, we discuss a paper he published last year in the journal advances in neurodevelopmental disorders.

0:17.6

It's called Issues related to AAC and SGD use by adolescents and adults with autism spectrum disorder.

0:26.0

We get into why he felt this paper was necessary to write, how he chose to communicate his thoughts to an audience beyond those of us in behavior analysis.

0:35.3

We talk about why he likes the term under what conditions and

0:38.9

what's so special about framing things from that point of view. We talk about what does and does

0:44.6

not constitute a quote-unquote robust communication repertoire. And we have a fun conversation about

0:50.2

the role of teaching words like please and Andy's nuanced view of this practice.

0:55.8

And we also returned to a topic we spoke about, in a few episodes ago with him,

1:01.2

about whether the sound from speech generation devices matter.

1:05.1

We also got into a really interesting discussion on the distinction between pointing

1:09.3

to pictures and exchanging them with

1:11.3

communicative partners and how that difference impacts joint attention. And we close the show by

1:17.6

talking about two topics that have been receiving lots of discussion as of late. Spelling to

1:22.1

communicate and gestalt language processing. And then lastly, we took a question from a Patreon member about Andy's thoughts regarding

1:29.0

the use of activity schedules and whether they qualify as prompts or something else entirely.

1:34.7

If you want to learn more about Pecs or anything else that Andy and his team are up to, go to

1:40.5

pexusa.com, and they've got resources and trainings and things like that there.

1:47.1

I also want to let you know that we're brought to you today by the University of Cincinnati

1:49.8

online, so check out their online Masters of Education and Behavior Analysis Program.

1:54.3

That's 100% online and asynchronous.

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