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The a16z Show

a16z Podcast: The Internet Is Your Movement

The a16z Show

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Innovation, Software Eating The World, Disruption, Technology, Entrepreneurship, Culture, Science, Business

4.21.2K Ratings

🗓️ 9 December 2016

⏱️ 22 minutes

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Summary

Clearly disruption plays out not just in business but also in politics. Whether it was the Scottish national party, recent election campaigns, or local school boards, people grew and organized communities online all last year through NationBuilder --...

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The content here is for informational purposes only, should not be taken as legal business, tax,

0:05.6

or investment advice, or be used to evaluate any investment or security and is not directed

0:10.3

at any investors or potential investors in any A16Z fund. For more details, please see A16Z.com

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slash disclosures. Hi, everyone. welcome to the A6 and Z podcast.

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Today's episode is based on a conversation that was recorded at our recent A6 and Z Summit event.

0:27.1

It features Ben Horowitz interviewing Jim Gilliam, CEO and founder of NationBuilder.

0:32.6

And the conversation focuses on the role of that platform in the recent elections, but more broadly what it means

0:39.5

for the nature of movements, how people organize, and the future of leadership.

0:43.9

Just a quick bit of background. Nation Builder, the platform that Jim's company built, was the

0:51.3

underlying software that 40% of the national campaigns in this election ran on,

0:58.5

including four of the five presidential candidates, including President-elect Trump. So he has a

1:05.6

special insight to this. First of all, the Republican nominee, when he became the nominee, had zero support

1:13.0

from the mainstream press. Nobody from the National Review, nobody from Fox News, nobody from the

1:18.5

Wall Street Journal wanted Trump to win the Republican nomination. That was like absolutely not the guy

1:24.0

they wanted. The Republican Party didn't want him to win the nomination. And then he gets

1:28.1

the nomination. And I don't know what the count was, but it was like 99% of newspapers endorsed

1:34.0

Hillary. And so the mainstream media had no impact on the election. The political party had no

1:40.8

impact on the election. And more than that, she outraised him. Seems like we're in

1:45.7

the brave new world. What does have an impact? Is this what we're living in from now on? Like,

1:51.0

all the old rules are out? Or is this just an anomaly at one time thing? Yeah, there's been a lot of

1:58.2

analysis from a political perspective of what happened. And obviously, I come from a technology perspective.

2:04.0

All of the outsider presidential candidates used nation-builder.

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