Welcome to the A16Z podcast. I'm Michael Copeland. Hollywood and Silicon Valley meet in this segment of the pod,

which features Mark Andreessen in conversation with Brian Grazer. Grazer, that name rings a bell, I'm sure.

He's the super producer behind half the movies and television. You've watched in the last 35 plus years,

including Empire, 24, Parenthood, arrested development,

Friday Night Lights, Apollo 13, Real Genius, Splash. Anyway, you get the idea. The two sat down at

the launch of Grazer's book, A Curious Mind, The Secret to a Bigger Life, which describes the

curiosity conversations, as Grazer calls him, which he's held for years,

with a succession of artists, scientists, politicians, technologists, and all kinds of people.

Mark and Brian pick up talking about Silicon Valley and Hollywood, the similarities and differences.

Let's shift a little bit about the entertainment business.

As context, my interest in the entertainment business, one is I'm a huge consumer.

I love all the movies and TV shows.

But the other is if there's one business on planet Earth that makes Silicon Valley look normal and sober and level-headed,

for sure, for sure, it's your business.

And so I think there are a lot of parallels.

There are differences between the businesses, but there are a lot of parallels, a lot of things to draw on.

So a couple of questions.

One is, what is the thing that you are most excited about in the next 10 years of your industry, of your business?

God.

I think everybody's trying to find the better way to merge narrative form with the

scalability of what you guys do. Because that hasn't been fully realized yet. What do you mean

like how so? I think that's what you do. That's what that's what you guys do. You find ways

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