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Hi, everyone. Welcome to the A6 and Z podcast.

I'm Sonal.

Today we're continuing our series on the theme of open versus closed by focusing on the topic

of open source communities and more specifically the changing culture of open source

across generations and governance models to access and identity and identity politics.

Should there be a sense of ownership in open source? What's healthy? What's not? Do we need to get religion or have a

culture of personality in order to drive vision? What happens to projects that evolve out of big

companies and universities? Joining us to have this discussion, we have Nadia Iqbal, who did research

for the Ford Foundation on the sustainability of open source projects before going to GitHub to focus on community programs there.

And then we have Michael Rogers, who's been a contributor to various open source projects

for over a decade and currently manages community and much more for the Node.js Foundation.

And just for quick context, Node.js is a platform built on Chrome's JavaScript runtime

for building fast and scalable network applications. And it's package manager, NPM, is the

largest ecosystem of open source libraries in the world. So we talk about open source a lot on this

podcast in so many different ways in the context of infrastructure, pricing, trends. I just kind of

want to break it down starting from the basics for the culture of

open source. And maybe we can start with, you know, why you got into open source in the first place.

Wow. So I think I got involved because when I was really young, how I got involved in computers was

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