Hi, everyone, welcome to the A6NZ podcast.

We talk a lot about tech policy issues in the news and elsewhere, but we tend to focus only on what the President and the White House, also known as the executive branch, as well as what the Senate and House of Representatives, aka the legislative branch, are saying and doing.

But when it comes right down to it, many technology policy issues will ultimately be resolved by the courts, the judicial branch,

in some cases going all the way up to the Supreme Court. So in this episode, recorded as part of the

annual A6 and Z Tech Policy Summit that took place earlier this month in Washington, D.C., we discuss

how the courts could decide today's big tech issues. We briefly touch on one such top-of-mind

issue encryption. And finally, we discussed tech companies increased engagement in high-profile

policy battles of all kinds, for example, by writing and signing amicus briefs to how the tech

sector is becoming its own powerful branch of sorts. Joining us to have this conversation,

we have Karen Dunn, partner at Boy Schiller-Flexner in Washington, D.C.

Previously, she served in all three branches of government and currently focuses her practice

on high-profile civil litigation and trials as well as crisis management, and she's also been

a consultant on the TV show, House of Cards. And then we have Aaron Murphy, partner in the

Washington, D.C. office of Kirkland and Ellis. Her practice focuses on Supreme

Court, appellate, and constitutional litigation. She's argued three cases before the Supreme Court,

including a landmark campaign finance decision, and she was recently recognized by National

Law Journal as a rising star. The conversation is hosted by A16s Ted Elliott, who heads up our

policy and regulatory affairs team and was formerly general

counsel at Facebook, and before that was a lawyer in D.C., including serving in the George W. Bush White

House. Oh, and all three of them have clerked for different Supreme Court justices, and getting

into the head of our new recently confirmed justice is where the conversation starts off.

Erin, Karen, thanks for being with us. So let's jump into some of the discussions here.

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