Hi, everyone.

Welcome to the A6 and Z podcast. I'm Sonal, and today Michael and I are in Washington, D.C.,

and we are doing our very first of our podcast on the road, our second road trip from the UK last year.

And our first guest that we're honored to have is Ezra Klein.

How's it going?

Hi.

And Ezra is the editor-in-chief of Vox. Previously, do you want to just tell us a way about your

background and how you came today to where you are? Well, in the beginning, I was a small child.

Yeah, so I'm currently editor-in-chief of Vox because I'm on a podcast. I'm also a podcast. I have the

Ezra Klein Show where I do interviews with folks. But path pathwise, I was at the Washington Post previously

where I ran, I found it and ran Wonk Blog, which was a policy heavy section, digital only.

And I was a contributor to Bloomberg View and a policy analyst at MSNBC. Before that, I was at the

American prospect. And before that, I was a pretty early blogger.

Back when saying the word blog was a really weird thing to do and people looked at you funny and asked you what you were talking about.

And so those were good times.

Tell us a little bit about how you have made this transition. I mean, you've gone from being like totally independent to being essentially an media entrepreneur. How has that been for you?

Accidental at almost all levels. So I am, I did not ever intend to become a journalist.

This is a slew of surprises for me in my life. When I started a blog, it wasn't something

you did because it was a career path. I began a blog in my

freshman year of college at UC Santa Cruz. It was 2003. I had been rejected from an internship on my

school newspaper. So it's not like my journalism skills were in high demand. But I caught blogging

at a really good moment when there was a big first

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