Hi, welcome to the A16Z podcast. This is Frank Chen. This episode, which is called Inside the Apple's Software Factory, originally aired as a YouTube video. You can watch all of our YouTube videos at YouTube.com slash A16Z videos. Hope you enjoy.

Well, welcome to the A16Z YouTube channel. I'm Frank Chen, and today I am so

excited. I feel like I have won the golden ticket to Willy Wonka's chocolate factory, because, look,

if you're in Silicon Valley, the one chocolate factory you want, you're desperate to go visit,

is Apple. And the reason for that is Apple has consistently

over its history turned out some of the most intuitive and delightful and just plain awesome

products that people use and people are dying to find out how is it that Apple makes such delightful products?

And so today, I'm here with Ken Kashenda, and I'm so excited for him to tell us all about

the creative process that he used and his team used to create these products.

So, Ken, thank you so much for coming.

Well, thank you so much. It's great to be here with you.

Well, let's get right into it. So maybe talk a little bit about how you ended up at Apple,

because, like, on paper, you don't look like the typical software engineer.

So go back and do the long run. Like, where were you born?

Oh, well, I was born in New York, stayed there on Long Island, downstate.

I grew up close to beaches, lived there until I went away to college.

I went to Yale and got a degree in history.

And then after I graduated from Yale, I didn't do the typical thing.

I went to motorcycle mechanic school.

Really?

All right.

Ivy League, and what motivated that?

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