Hi everyone, welcome to the A6 and Z podcast. Today's episode features Mark Andreessen, Ben Horowitz,

and author Stephen B. Johnson, who's written numerous magazine articles, 11 books so far,

including where good ideas come from, and also hosted the PBS series How We Got to Now.

Incidentally, those topics also serve as themes for this discussion,

which covers everything from business relationships, decision-making, and conflict resolution,

to the history of tech, technology change, and what excites Ben and Mark most about the future.

The conversation took place at our annual A6 and Z summit event late last year,

which also featured other keynotes,

such as Adina Friedman, Charles Koch, and Ted Sarandos, all of which you can find in the A6 and Z

podcast archive, as well as other conversations with Rout and J.J. Abrams, who came on stage right

before this conversation. All right, I'm delighted and honored to be here with you. And we've got a lot to cover.

And what the kind of architecture for this conversation is, in a sense, we're going to kind of

zoom out.

We're going to start on a more personal level and broaden out to think a little bit about tech

cultures inside a given organization and then start thinking a little bit more about broader

social trends coming out of technology

and looking into the future a little bit. But I wanted to start with something actually just

listening to your conversation with JJ, who I don't know at all that I'm going to call JJ.

He was talking about that first kind of literally magical moment going and seeing Universal Studios

and then getting into magic and how that was so transformative

as an eight-year-old. And it occurred to me, do you guys have a memory of something like

that with tech at any point where you really saw something? For me, it was late, it was

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