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Hi, everyone. Welcome to the A6 and Z podcast. I'm Sonal. So this week, to continue our

10-year anniversary series since the founding of A6 and Z, we're actually resurfacing some of our

previous episodes featuring founders Mark Andreessen and Ben Horowitz. If you haven't heard our latest

episode with Stuart Butterfield turning the tables as

the entrepreneur interviewing them, please do check that out and our other episodes in this series

on our website at a6.z.com slash 10. But this episode was recorded at our Innovation Summit in

2018 and features economist Tyler Cowan interviewing them about everything from their partnership and how it works to talent, tech trends, and software eating culture.

Thank you all for coming. I'd like to start with the two of you as a couple.

Oh yeah.

How was it you met at Netscape in 1995?

Well, Mark interviewed me, you know, way back then.

And he interviewed me, I think, I was interviewing for a product management role.

And he was the founder of the company.

And I had worked on a product called Lotus Notes.

And Mark had a fascination with Lotus Notes for a couple of reasons.

One was it was kind of sort of the closest proprietary thing to the Internet,

and then they had email in it.

And Netscape was looking at doing email.

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