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Yukiko Tominaga is the author of C-Loss, C-Also Love, a novel. Yukiko was born and raised in Japan. She was a finalist

for the 2020 Flannery O'Connor Award for Short Fiction, selected by Roxanne Gay. Her work

has been nominated for the Pushcard Prize and has appeared in the Chicago Quarterly

Review and the Bellingham Review, among other publications. She works at Counterpoint Press, where

she helps to introduce never-before-translated books

from Japan to English-language readers.

This is her first book.

Welcome, Yukiko.

Thank you so much for coming on Moms Don't Have Time to Read Books to Discuss, See

Loss, See Also, Love, which is, by the way, a fabulous, fabulous title.

Oh, my gosh. I was like, yes, I have to read this

book. Oh, thank you, CB. Okay, tell listeners what your book is about, please. Yes, so it's

about a Kiyoko, a Japanese woman, who raised a child alone in the U.S. after she lost her husband.

And we follow both her son's growth from 18 months old to 15 years old, and as well as Koko's growth as a mother and a woman.

And I said she's alone to raise her child in a familiar country, but because she has to depend on other people. And so people help her, most notably her Jewish

mother-in-law, who never gives up to love her, even though when Koko lost faith in love.

And yes, and for me, it's a love letter to San Francisco parents' community and love letter to Aboubi, the Madden Lo.

Do you know that this whole time until right this minute, and I read it first over the

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