Let's get to Maddie, who's listening in Raleigh, North Carolina. Hi, Maddie.

Hi, Patrick. I was listening earlier, and you were speaking to a young lady named Billy about contraception.

Right.

I believe I must have misunderstood maybe, or I'm trying to figure out, are you saying that just between a married woman and man that it's a lie?

Or are you encouraging no one to use it?

Are we talking about contraception?

Yes.

Yes, I did use the word lie, and I'll recap what I meant by that.

And to answer your second question, yes.

Controception, you shouldn't use it because of the reason I'm about to...

Go ahead.

Well, hold on.

So if I'm a single woman who's not married, I shouldn't use it.

Right.

But don't I have the free will to choose for myself whether or not I want a child? Oh, sure. Sure you do. You have free will. So no one's forcing you. So,

then why would you say it's a lie, though?

Like, I'm just, I'm a little confused because I think it's smart to protect myself.

And I think it's smart for any single woman who isn't ready to take that leap with her body or her life.

That they protect themselves from putting themselves in that position

potentially.

Yeah, I understand where you're coming from.

A quick question.

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