I think what ends up happening is history has led us to kind of two places.

At least with American history, we kind of always come back to the issue of race.

Is it as unintentional?

We might be trying to tell one story and it comes back to that.

And then also the environment because it looms so large and in human history, it's affected

human history in so many ways.

Obviously the climate is a hot topic of conversation and it is often in the news. It's often being talked about and you know

rightly so and I think that also means that it's on our radar.

I'd like to introduce you to two human beings who lately have been absolutely lighting up my headphones.

Okay, I can go first.

My name is Rond Abdadtath.

I'm a co-host and co-producer of the podcast throughline.

I'm Ram Tien-ad-Ablui and I'm the other half of that equation.

I'm a co-host and co-producer of the show too.

And I'm Sam Evans Brown, by the way.

There are a lot of stories that we do here at Outside In,

not every story, but a lot of them that start with an idea and we realize before long

that if we really want people to understand the idea, we've got to tell them the backstory,

the history that informs how we talk about things.

And Thruline, Rundin Ramteen's show, does that every episode.

A lot of the most popular history shows really are just a couple people are one person talking about a historical

event and we wanted to make something that sounded more like a documentary.

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