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I'm Ellie Corthon.

Today you'll hear another lecture from our 2019 History Weekend in Chester.

The speaker is Bart Van Ass, author of The Cut Out Girl, which won the costabuck of the

year award.

In this talk, Bart tells the extraordinary story of the Jewish children who lived in hiding

in the Netherlands during the Second World War.

Thank you.

So I'd like to begin by introducing you to somebody.

This is a photograph that I took on the 21st of December 2014 when I pressed a buzzer

on an apartment block in Amsterdam, went up to the third floor, steps out the lift.

And there was this lady, who began to circle me slowly, an 82-year-old lady.

And after about five minutes of looking at me, she said, you look more like your mother.

And she invited me into this apartment that was full of modern art.

It had cultural supplements under the coffee tables, seasoned ticket to the opera.

Really somebody who looked anything but the stereotypical Holocaust victim.

And she kind of immediately felt to me like family.

But I also knew that while this person had been part of my family a long time, she was

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