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A Would-Be Home Distiller Fights Back in Ream v. U.S. Department of Treasury

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4.5979 Ratings

🗓️ 25 March 2024

⏱️ 17 minutes

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Summary

An engineer and brewer thought he would take up home distilling as a hobby, but he then learned it's a federal crime. In Ream v. U.S. Department of Treasury, he's fighting back. The Buckeye Institute's Robert Alt explains.

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0:00.0

This is the Cater Daily Podcast for Monday, March 25th, 2024.

0:07.0

I'm Caleb Brown.

0:08.0

When Ohio entrepreneur John Reem wanted to engage in a new hobby, that of home distilling, he realized he'd be

0:14.5

committing a federal felony, so he's suing the Treasury Department for the right

0:18.6

to engage in this would-be hobby, and he's in part challenging a bizarre but long-standing interpretation of the

0:25.2

U.S. Commerce Clause. If Mr. Reim wins the right to engage in his hobby, it could mean big things

0:31.9

for federal regulation.

0:34.0

Mr Reims attorney is Robert Alt.

0:36.2

He explains why this case has big implications.

0:39.2

I have had the pleasure.

0:41.0

Well, maybe not the pleasure.

0:42.3

The bemusement of experience. the bemusement of explaining the Supreme Court's reasoning in the

0:48.2

Wickard v Philburn decision including to law students, and being met with utter disbelief that that was the reasoning

1:00.0

offered by the Supreme Court in that case that has enabled so much mischief at the federal level.

1:08.4

If you don't mind, can you characterize or at least give us a brief summary of what that reasoning was?

1:15.0

My pleasure to do so and I feel like as someone who runs the Bakai Institute

1:21.2

it's particularly appropriate that I should do so because

1:24.3

Wickered versus Philburn regrettably. I think one of the worst decisions in the history of the

1:29.7

United Supreme Court arises from Ohio and involves an Ohio farmer, Roscoe Philburn, who had a farm just outside of Dayton, Ohio, and during the Great Depression he grew a number of crops including winter wheat as part of the

1:47.0

Agricultural Adjustment Act, the federal government in an attempt to essentially cartilize farming and to regulate farm prices, put caps on the amount

2:00.4

of crops farmers could grow.

2:03.0

Farmer Philburn exceeded his quota, but an interesting tidbit is that the excess

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