Hi, it's Lacey Healy.

When members of Congress and even the vice president are sworn into office, they say an oath,

to protect the country from all enemies, foreign and domestic.

But what does a domestic enemy look like?

January 6, it was coming from the top.

Some of them are bad people, but most of them are just normal people.

Because if we weren't all stressed out enough.

This season on Things That Go Boom, we're turning our eyes on the U.S., how violence starts, how it stops, and how we stop it before it starts.

A new season of Things That Go Boom is available now, wherever you get your

podcasts.

The United States Agency for International Development, which most people refer to as USAID,

has carried out health and nutrition and development projects all over the world since the early

1960s. Has it been worth the billions of tax dollars? Well, consider PEPFAR, the president's

emergency program for AIDS relief. It was established in 2003 by George W. Bush,

and since that time, analysts estimate this one program has saved at least 26 million lives.

From KERA in Dallas, this is think. I'm Chris Boyd.

Now, the future of PEPFAR and all the other programs administered by USAID is uncertain at best and possibly doomed.

Elon Musk, head of the Trump administration's Department of Government Efficiency, boasted on X that he spent a recent weekend feeding USAID into the woodchipper.

That's a quote. It looks as if the nearly 13,000 person workforce at this

agency will be permanently fired. And if that happens, what can USAID still do? Brett Murphy is a

Pulitzer Prize winning reporter on ProPublica's National Desk, where he's been reporting on the

dismantling of USAID, and he joins us to share what he has learned.

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