A World to Win: Tory Chaos w/ Phil Burton-Cartledge
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🗓️ 5 August 2022
⏱️ 33 minutes
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Summary
This week, Grace speaks to Phil Burton-Cartledge, author of Falling Down: The Conservative Party and the Decline of Tory Britain, about the current leadership contest within the Conservative Party. They discuss why there's a dearth of Tory talent, why both candidates, Liz Truss and Rishi Sunak, are trying to model themselves on Margaret Thatcher, and whether they have any answers to long-term issues facing both the party itself and the UK as a whole.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to another episode of A World To In. This week I am talking to Phil |
| 0:17.0 | Burton Cartlich, author of Falling Down, the Conservative Party and the Decline of Tory |
| 0:21.8 | Britain about the Conservative leadership contest. I've already interviewed Phil about his |
| 0:27.3 | book and you can find that in the A World To In archives if you want a longer episode about |
| 0:33.3 | the book. But this week we are talking about the Tory leadership contest. We speak about |
| 0:38.7 | why there seems to be such a dearth of talent in the Tory party, why both candidates seem |
| 0:44.6 | to be trying to model themselves on Margaret Thatcher and whether they have any of the |
| 0:49.3 | answers to the kind of long-term challenges that the country faces but also that the Conservative |
| 0:54.2 | party itself faces. Thank you as always to all of our amazing patrons who make the show |
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| 1:05.3 | this podcast. You can go to patreon.com slash a world to win pod. There's also a link in |
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| 1:15.1 | this episode or other episodes on social media, tagging at a world to win pod on Twitter, |
| 1:20.4 | Facebook and Instagram. I apologise, I have a little bit of a cold this week, so send |
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