Hello and welcome to a world to win a podcast from Tribune magazine. I'm Grace Blakely bringing

you your weekly dose of Socialist news, theory and action from around the world.

This week I speak to Alexander Zeven, Assistant Professor of History at City University of

New York, an editor of New Left Review and author of Liberalism at Large, the world according

to the Economist. We tackle our host of interesting questions this week, including what is Liberalism,

is it in crisis and where next for the Liberal Rules-based World Order?

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And now here is Alexander Zeven, to tell us what Liberalism really is.

Hello, Alexander Zeven, and thank you so much for joining me on this episode of A

World to Win. How are you today? I'm very good from New York. Thank you for having me.

So today we are going to talk a little bit about your book, and I'm going to open up by asking you

just a small question. What is Liberalism? Well, I have to begin by saying that my book

sort of rejects some ideas about what Liberalism is in order to get to a better definition,

and maybe to start there because those are the ones that people will be familiar with. You know,

what I'm responding to are these ideas that Liberalism either begins in the 17th century with John

Locke and his political ideas and theories or with Adam Smith in the 18th century and the wealth

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