Hello and welcome to a world to win a podcast from Tribune magazine. I'm Grace Blakely bringing

you your weekly dose of socialist news theory and action from around the world. This week

I talk to Laurie Penny about her new book Sexual Revolution, Modern Fascism and the Feminist

Fightback. We talk about the roots of the resurgence of violence against women, what it means

to build a culture of consent, and how women can organize to resist their oppression and exploitation.

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Hello, Laurie Penny, and thank you so much for joining me on this episode of a world to win.

How are you doing today?

That is possibly the hardest question of all, but no, I'm all right. And it's really,

really great to be here. And I'm excited to, honestly, I'm excited to talk about the book,

because when you write a thingy book like this, you always slightly wonder if you are in fact

publishing a book, or if you're just having a breakdown until you can just talk about the

things to other people. So let's just start by chatting a bit about some terms. I wanted you

just to start by telling us what you mean by patriarchy in the book. You spell it out at several

points, and I think it's just worth reiterating what patriarchy is and what it isn't.

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