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This week, the January 6th hearings expand from focusing on corruption and complicity of government officials to the on-the-ground extremists in groups like the oathkeepers and the proud boys.

And the threat these organizations posed to democracy hasn't stopped.

We're talking about your neighbors, your friends, your family, the guy that's delivering, you know, the male, other people who don't believe America should be anything other than a white-dominated male supremacist state.

The ongoing danger of white extremists coming up on a word with me, Jason Johnson. Stay with us.

Welcome to a Word, a podcast about race and politics and everything else. I'm your host, Jason Johnson.

Congressional hearings about the January 6th insurrection are uncovering new and

frightening details about how backers of former President Donald Trump stormed the Capitol

with his explicit support. And while early hearings centered on how Trump and members of his staff

encouraged the violence this week, they're also revealing more details about the extremist

groups that spent months organizing the attack. Our next guest has spent years tracking the rise

of these groups and how they gained a foothold in the Republican Party. Malcolm Nance is a

counterterrorism expert and a former intelligence officer. He's also a best-selling author whose latest book is

They Want to Kill Americans, the Militius, Terrorist, and Deranged Ideology of the Trump Insurgency.

Malcolm Nance, welcome back to a word. Well, I'm glad to be here. What's the word? So Malcolm,

you joined us last year to talk about the extremist groups to try to overturn the 2020 election.

Remind us now, who are these groups and who are the people who have sort of carried out this plot?

You know, what's going to be fascinating to most of your listeners is two things.

One, that I warned about this on November 6th, 2020 on Bill Maher's show, on real-time

with Bill Maher. And you know, Bill was out there. I love Bill, but he was out there,

kumbaya, we've got to get along with them. We have to understand where they're coming from.

And I go, you want me to raid on your parade? I'll give you doom and gloom.

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