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The Untold Story with Martha MacCallum

A Word On Hope

The Untold Story with Martha MacCallum

FOX News Podcasts

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4.6775 Ratings

🗓️ 2 January 2026

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

On September 10th, 2025, Charlie Kirk was killed while speaking at Utah Valley University in Orem, Utah. The impact of his death had a significant impact on millions of Americans.  Martha revisits her conversation with the Bishop of the Diocese of Winona-Rochester, MN, founder of the Catholic ministerial organization' Word on Fire,' and formerly the host of 'Catholicism,' Bishop Robert Barron, a friend of Charlie Kirk's, who discusses his life, legacy, and how his message touched so many Americans. Bishop Barron also shares his hope for Americans moving forward.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hi, everybody. This is Martha McCallum, and today we are speaking to you from New York on the

0:17.5

anniversary of September 11th, 24 years ago, a day that we all remember profoundly,

0:23.9

and a day that always causes us to pause and remember and to pray.

0:29.2

We also are dealing with the loss of Charlie Kirk,

0:33.4

the assassination of someone who was very well known to all of us here at Fox and certainly to the

0:40.0

larger country as well. And I'm particularly grateful to be joined today by Bishop Robert Barron,

0:45.9

who is joining me with his thoughts on all of these developments. He's the Word on Fire

0:51.8

Founder, the Bishop of the Diocese of Winona, Rochester, Minnesota,

0:56.2

and he is really also the leader of a movement within the Catholic Church, and he has done so much

1:02.7

to create provocative conversation with so many people, including Charlie Kirk and Ben Shapiro and so

1:08.7

many others. So Bishop Barron, thank you so much for joining me today.

1:12.2

Martha, you're welcome. Good morning to you. If you don't mind, I would love for you to start with a blessing

1:18.1

as we all approach these very difficult topics this morning. Let's pray. Lord guide our country,

1:25.0

help our country. Help us to move always in the path toward peace and toward love.

1:29.9

Let us follow Jesus, whom you sent in our midst to be our Savior.

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And I ask the blessing of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit to come down upon all who are listening and watching and remain forever and ever.

1:43.1

Amen. Thank you, Bishop. You know, I'd like you to

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tell me what your thoughts are today when you think about all of these things. And of course,

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in Minnesota, you suffered a terrible situation recently as well at Annunciation Church during a mass.

1:58.7

So your thoughts on where we are right now.

2:01.9

We're in a bad place.

2:03.3

The summer began here with the killing of the representative from Minnesota and her husband,

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