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Slate Culture

A Word: Colorism, Cluelessness, and Carefree Black Girls

Slate Culture

Slate Podcasts

Arts, Tv & Film, Music

4.42K Ratings

🗓️ 19 November 2021

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Summary

Zeba Blay popularized the hashtag #carefreeblackgirls, a celebration of positive online representation of Black women and girls. In her book Carefree Black Girls, she reckons with why––even in a pop culture led by people of color––so many critics are white men. Blay joins the show this week to discuss The Harder They Fall, Passing, Dave Chappelle, and where today’s artists are, and aren’t, hitting the mark on race. Guest: Zeba Blay, culture and film critic and author of the book Carefree Black Girls Podcast production by Ahyiana Angel and Jasmine Ellis You can skip all the ads in A Word by joining Slate Plus. Sign up now at slate.com/awordplus for just $1 for your first month. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

This is a word, a podcast from Slate. I'm your host, Jason Johnson. The conversation

0:10.7

about pop culture is often dominated by white male critics, and that means that black

0:15.0

people, particularly black women, are relegated to stereotypes. But culture critic Zeba

0:19.7

Blay, since it's time to rewrite the script.

0:22.5

We're not saying do not have depictions or representations of strong black women, but

0:28.1

also recognize that strengths and weakness can exist in the same body.

0:34.0

The author of Carefree Black Girls coming up on a word with me, Jason Johnson. Stay with

0:38.7

us.

0:46.6

Welcome to a word, a podcast about race, impolitics, and everything else. I'm your host, Jason

0:50.8

Johnson. Black artists shape so much of American popular culture from music to television

0:56.7

to filmmaking, but for too long, the people who write about it have been disproportionately

1:01.2

white, male, and pretty much clueless about race. That means that a lot of the cultural

1:05.8

discussion about everything from the rise of Cardi B to the legacy of the Cosby Show,

1:09.6

the controversy of Dave Chappelle has left out important contexts, black contexts.

1:15.0

One person who's been working to get it right is Zeba Blay. She's a culture and film critic

1:19.3

who was written for Jezebel Essence and The New York Times. Zeba Blay was one of the first

1:23.6

to popularize the hashtag Carefree Black Girls, and that helped inspire her new book Carefree

1:28.8

Black Girls, a celebration of black women in popular culture. And Zeba Blay joins us

1:33.2

now. Welcome to a word. Thank you for having me. I'm so delighted to be talking to you.

1:40.2

What was the idea behind Carefree Black Girls? Where did that hashtag come from? What was

1:47.1

the impetus for it? And what were you all trying to say with that hashtag?

1:53.0

For me, the tweet that kind of started it all came from a place of me trying to make sense

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