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A Word: Colorism, Cluelessness, and Carefree Black Girls

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News, News Commentary, Politics

4.66K Ratings

🗓️ 21 November 2021

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

Zeba Blay popularized the hashtag #carefreeblackgirls, a celebration of positive online representation of Black women and girls. In her book Carefree Black Girls, she reckons with why––even in a pop culture led by people of color––so many critics are white men. Blay joins the show this week to discuss The Harder They Fall, Passing, Dave Chappelle, and where today’s artists are, and aren’t, hitting the mark on race. Guest: Zeba Blay, culture and film critic and author of the book Carefree Black Girls Podcast production by Ahyiana Angel and Jasmine Ellis You can skip all the ads in A Word by joining Slate Plus. Sign up now at slate.com/awordplus for just $1 for your first month. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

This is a word, a podcast from Slate. I'm your host, Jason Johnson. The conversation about

0:10.9

pop culture is often dominated by white male critics, and that means that black people,

0:15.6

particularly black women, are relegated to stereotypes. But culture critic Zeba Blay,

0:20.3

since it's time to rewrite the script. We're not saying do not have depictions or representations

0:26.0

of strong black women, but also recognize that strengths and weakness can exist in the same body.

0:33.8

The author of Carefree Black Girls coming up on a word with me, Jason Johnson. Stay with us.

0:41.5

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1:04.0

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1:15.9

Welcome to a word, a podcast about race, impolitics, and everything else. I'm your host, Jason Johnson.

1:21.1

Black artists shape so much of American popular culture from music to television to filmmaking,

1:26.9

but for too long, the people who write about it have been disproportionately white, male,

1:31.8

and pretty much clueless about race. That means a lot of the cultural discussion about everything

1:36.3

from the rising Cardi B to the legacy of the Cosby Show, the controversy of Dave Chappelle,

1:40.7

has left out important context. Black context. One person who's been working to get it right is

1:46.2

Zeba Blay. She's a culture and film critic who was written for Jezebel, Essence, and The New York Times.

1:51.6

Zeba Blay was one of the first to popularize the hashtag Carefree Black Girls, and that helped

1:56.7

inspire her new book Carefree Black Girls, a celebration of Black women in popular culture.

2:01.6

And Zeba Blay joins us now. Welcome to a word. Thank you for having me, and I'm so delighted to

2:07.5

be talking to you. What was the idea behind Carefree Black Girls? Where did that hashtag come from?

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