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Slate Debates

A Word: Candace Owens: Back to Black?

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Society & Culture, News

4.63K Ratings

🗓️ 12 April 2024

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

Commentator Candace Owens’ messy fall from grace in conservative media coincided with her appearances on popular Black chat shows. That includes The Breakfast Club, led by radio host and personality Charlamagne tha God. Once a minor social media personality who condemned Donald Trump as racist, Owens became one of the former president’s chief defenders, and a leading Black voice of anti-Black rhetoric. So is Owens saying anything new in Black media, and were those outlets doing the right thing by inviting her? On today’s episode of A Word, Jason Johnson is joined by Michael Harriot. He’s a columnist for The Grio, and the author of Black AF History: The Un-Whitewashed Story of America. Harriot recently wrote for The Guardian, criticizing the choice to platform Owens in African American media. In this interview and an earlier version of this episode description, we incorrectly stated and implied that Candace Owens’ interviews on Joe Budden’s podcast and The Breakfast Club happened after The Daily Wire announced her separation from the outlet on March 22. They both occurred before, with the Budden interview recording the week of February 27, and being published in mid-March. The Breakfast Club discussion was recorded on March 18 and aired on March 21. We regret the error. Guest: Writer Michael Harriot Podcast production by Kristie Taiwo-Makanjuola Want more A Word? Subscribe to Slate Plus to immediately access ad-free listening across all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Or, visit slate.com/awordplus to get access wherever you listen. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

In the following interview, we incorrectly stated and implied that Candice Owens interviews on

0:06.1

Joe Button's podcast in the breakfast club happened after the Daily Wire announced her separation

0:11.8

from the outlet on March 22nd.

0:14.3

They both occurred before.

0:15.9

The button interview was recorded during the week of February 27th and published in mid-March.

0:21.0

The Breakfast Club discussion was recorded on March 18th and aired on March 21st.

0:25.7

We regret the error.

0:28.8

This is a word, a podcast from Slate. I'm your host, Jason Johnson.

0:32.0

Candice Owens built a lucrative career

0:35.0

by converting to black conservatism

0:37.0

and becoming one of the chief cheerleaders for Donald Trump.

0:40.0

But after losing a rhetorical fight with right-wing media giant Ben Shapiro,

0:43.4

Owens is now taking her act to black media, looking for redemption, and maybe her next paycheck.

0:49.4

Our guest today says not so fast.

0:51.8

She's just the person who said stuff and because she's

0:54.8

black she gets to say anti-black stuff she's what white people talk about when

0:59.8

they talk about the diversity hire. Kansasice Owens, Black Media, and the Politics of Redemption

1:05.4

coming up on a word with me Jason Johnson.

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