You're listening to Once, episode 289, the unofficial podcast for ABC's TV show Once Upon a time.

I'm Daniel J. Lewis.

I'm Jeremy Loughlin.

And I'm Heather Ordover. And we, well, I actually, have something to bring to you. And it is an

apology. I was a bit too hard on this episode Sunday night when we did our initial reactions.

Yeah, you were.

Since re-watching the episode.

Now, I know I did receive some comments from others who did say, yes, worst episode of Once Upon a Time ever.

Since re-watching it and doing more research on things in this episode and connections,

I have a lot more respect for the episode.

And especially being able to pick out certain things that were obviously Jane Espinson writing

and how good they are in certain parts of the episode.

So I no longer say this is the worst episode ever.

So I'm sorry for bashing the episode.

I do still have problems with the episode.

And we'll discuss some of those a little bit later on.

It was, I believe I called it in the chat on Sunday night,

an entertaining collection of boring.

Because I was entertained, but I felt that none of it mattered to me.

That's a good way to put it.

It was still, yes, I did not think that it was the worst episode ever.

I groaned sometimes.

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