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The Documentary Podcast

A Wish for Afghanistan: The Talib and the president

The Documentary Podcast

BBC

Documentary, Society & Culture

4.32.7K Ratings

🗓️ 26 December 2021

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

A chance to hear once again from the BBC's acclaimed series examining the seismic events shaping Afghanistan before and after this year's return to power of the Taliban. The BBC's chief international correspondent, Lyse Doucet, hears from two key players who have shaped the country's recent history: Mullah Abdul Salam Zaeef, a former Afghan diplomat and co-founder of the Taliban movement; and Hamid Karzai, the country's first elected president. Both talk in detail about the events that shaped their lives, their thinking and what they make of the collapse of the US-backed government in the country.

Hear the whole series at bbcworldservice.com/afghanistan

Transcript

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0:00.0

BBC World Service, this is a wish for Afghanistan,

0:04.0

stories of those who've made and been made by the country

0:07.5

I've been covering for more than three decades.

0:13.3

I'm Lee's to set.

0:17.1

In the weeks after the attacks on New York and Washington

0:20.0

20 years ago, the Taliban's main spokesman

0:23.4

was a 34-year-old former refugee.

0:26.6

America will newer, but you, it's political goals.

0:32.4

I remember watching him.

0:34.2

Bearded, as spectacle, he held press conferences

0:37.2

at his residence in Pakistan on a lawn packed with journalists.

0:42.0

His name, Abdul Salam Zaheef, ambassador

0:45.5

of the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan.

0:48.2

The Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan has always.

0:53.0

The eyes of the world were upon him.

0:55.4

The US and its allies were taking over his country.

0:59.6

The Afghans win the rise.

1:03.5

And his days, like those of the Taliban government itself,

1:07.1

were numbered.

1:08.8

Soon Pakistan's security services knocked on his door.

1:13.2

Your excellency, they said, using his formal diplomatic title,

1:17.6

you are no longer an excellency.

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