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Deadline: White House

“A white knuckle day”

Deadline: White House

Nicolle Wallace, MS NOW

Politics, News, Ms Now, Government, Nicolle Wallace, Daily News, Msnbc, Versant, The White House, Washington Dc

4.56.4K Ratings

🗓️ 7 June 2023

⏱️ 93 minutes

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Summary

Nicolle Wallace discusses the implications of Mark Meadows’ testimony in Special Counsel Jack Smith’s multiple investigations into the ex-president, the ever more crowded Republican primary field as candidates seek to set themselves apart from the twice-impeached, once-indicted former president, Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas’s latest ethical fumble, Democratic pushback as the right continues to villainize transgender people, and more. Joined by: Timothy Heaphy, Katie Benner, Charlie Sykes, Paul Rieckhoff, Lisa Rubin, Andrew Weissmann, Basil Smikle, Paul Rieckhoff, Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse, Rep. Becca Balint and Bill Karins.

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0:00.0

Hi, everyone. It's 4 o'clock in New York. We're the skies above us are hazy from those Canadian wildfires. We are all under air quality warnings.

0:15.0

We're going to get to that story later in the broadcast, but we begin with what is shaping up to be a white knuckle day for the disgrace twice impeached once indicted, now legally liable for sexual abuse ex-president.

0:27.0

Thanks to fast moving developments in special counsel jack smith criminal investigations, plural into Donald Trump.

0:34.0

Today, a federal grand jury in Miami is back in action hearing witness testimony as part of the special counsel's investigation into whether the ex-president mishandled classified documents or obstructed government efforts to retrieve those classified documents after leaving office.

0:50.0

And it was not just any witness. It was one of Trump's closest a former Trump spokesman who now heads of pro Trump super PAC Washington Post reports this quote that prosecutors were at least partially interested in Taylor buta witch because of his role in an episode involving Trump in early 2022.

1:09.0

After sending boxes of materials from his Mar-a-Lago home and private club to the national archives, Trump drafted a lengthy statement saying he had given everything back to the federal government.

1:21.0

But buta witch did not release Trump statement after consulting with lawyers and advisors, at least some of whom did not believe that Trump had returned everything.

1:30.0

Not a great day for the disgraced ex-president when folks who were in the proverbial room where it happened or before the grand jury.

1:37.0

And he wasn't the only one. It comes on the heels of news that two dozen of Trump's secret service agents had been subpoenaed or appeared before federal grand jury in DC in the same classified documents investigation.

1:51.0

As well as that bombshell reporting from the New York Times that none other than Mark Meadows, Trump's former chief of staff and unofficial consigliary has testified as well.

2:00.0

According to ABC News, Meadows quote answered questions on both Trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election and Trump's alleged mishandling of classified documents while he was out of office.

2:13.0

O to be a fly on that wall, what did federal prosecutors ask Mark Meadows? The possibilities are endless.

2:20.0

Maybe they asked about his role in turning over classified documents to the national archives or his role with the fake electors scheme in Georgia.

2:28.0

He traveled to Georgia, how odd for a White House Chief of Staff. Perhaps they asked about the 2,319 text messages that Mark Meadows turned over to the January 6th committee before he stopped cooperating with it.

2:43.0

It is fitting that with the one year anniversary of the January 6th select committee's public hearings coming up, Mark Meadows is now back at the center of the national conversation.

2:52.0

Meadows was the January 6th select committee's white whale refusing to testify and cooperate, but casting a long shadow over virtually every second of those hearings.

3:02.0

Listen to Cassidy Hutchinson.

3:05.0

And did you go back then up to the West Wing and tell Mr Meadows about your conversation with Mr. Giuliani?

3:12.0

I did. After Mr. Giuliani had left the campus that evening, I went back up to our office and I found Mr. Meadows in his office on the couch, just scrolling through his phone.

3:22.0

I remember leaning against the doorway and saying, it's an interesting conversation. It's a pretty mark.

3:28.0

Sounds like we're going to go to the Capitol. He didn't look up from his phone and said something to the effect of there's a lot going on, Cass.

3:37.0

But I don't know. Things might get real, real bad on January 6th.

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