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the memory palace

A White Horse

the memory palace

Nate DiMeo

Natedimeo, History, Publicradio, Radiotopia

4.87.2K Ratings

🗓️ 12 June 2024

⏱️ 11 minutes

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Summary

The Memory Palace is a proud member of Radiotopia from PRX. Radiotopia is a collective of independently owned and operated podcasts that’s a part of PRX, a not-for-profit public media company. If you’d like to directly support this show and independent media, you can make a donation at Radiotopia.fm/donate.  I have recently launched a newsletter. You can subscribe to it at thememorypalacepodcast.substack.com

This episode was originally released in 2016 in the days after the shooting at the Pulse nightclub in Orlando. It is re-released every year on the anniversary of the incident. 

A note on notes: We’d much rather you just went into each episode of The Memory Palace cold. And just let the story take you where it well. So, we don’t suggest looking into the show notes first.

Notes and Reading:
* Most of the specific history of the White Horse was learned from "Sanctuary: the Inside Story of the Nation's Second Oldest Gay Bar" by David Olson, reprinted in its entirety on the White Horse's website.
* "Gayola: Police Professionalization and the Politics of San Francisco's Gay Bars, 1950-1968," by Christopher Agee.
* June Thomas' series on the past, present, and future of the gay bar from Slate a few years back.
* Various articles written on the occasion of the White Horse's 80th anniversary, including this one from SFGATE.Com
* Michael Bronski's A Queer History of the United States.
* Radically Gay, a collection of Harry Hay's writing.
* Incidentally, I watched this interview with Harry Hay from 1996 about gay life in SF in the 30's multiple times because it's amazing.

Music
* We start with Water in Your Hands by Tommy Guerrero.
* Hit Anne Muller's Walzer fur Robert a couple of times.
* Gaussian Curve does Talk to the Church.
* We get a loop of Updraught from Zoe Keating.
* We finish on Transient Life in Twilight by James Blackshaw

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Transcript

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0:00.0

This episode was originally released a few days after I woke up in the morning of June 12, 2016, to learn about the 49 people who were murdered at the Pulse nightclub in Orlando, Florida.

0:12.2

I've re-released it each year on June 12th ever since. It is called a White Horse.

0:18.7

This is the Memory Palace. I'm Nate DeMayo. The White Horse Inn on Telegraph in Oakland

0:26.6

opened in 1933, or thereabouts. No one's been able to nail down the date. Historians have tried,

0:34.9

as have some of its various owners, it seems, over the years. But if you're

0:39.5

not an academic, or if you don't have a personal financial stake in solidifying its claim as the

0:45.1

oldest gay bar in the United States, to operate continuously in one location, it doesn't really

0:50.5

matter when the White Horse first opened its doors.

0:55.0

Just that it was soon enough.

0:58.0

For a man to walk in on just the right night in 1936, or 46 or 54, it'd see the most beautiful

1:05.2

man he'd ever seen in his life.

1:07.8

And just be done for her.

1:10.5

Soon enough for another man who'd heard of this place, heard of places like it, whispered about,

1:17.3

or mocked by the fellas in the assembly line, or in the office, or in his usual joint across town,

1:23.8

heard the cracks about pansies and perverts and queers and feared what they might mean, feared why

1:30.8

the words seemed to cut right through, sit strange in his belly and tight in his throat.

1:37.9

But who fought through that fear to make his way there, to the white horse, who may have

1:42.8

circled the block all butterflies before working up the courage to park.

1:48.0

Who may have walked right past it, rather than be seen walking in by some stranger.

1:53.5

Or maybe he pulled his collar up and tipped his fedora low and pushed through the door as fast as he could.

2:00.0

And who may have learned that night, in that bar,

2:03.0

where men talked to men by the fireplace in the back, where women flirted with women in the

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