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The Atlas Obscura Podcast

A Whale of a Tale with Daniel Kraus

The Atlas Obscura Podcast

SiriusXM Podcasts & Atlas Obscura

Places & Travel, Society & Culture

4.61.8K Ratings

🗓️ 21 August 2023

⏱️ 15 minutes

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Summary

We chat with writer Daniel Kraus, who let his imagination run deep into the ocean after hearing a wild news story about an encounter between kayakers and a whale. And we get the backstory to Kraus’ new novel Whalefall, about a man who finds himself in the belly of a sperm whale.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Can you see this?

0:02.0

Yes.

0:03.0

Okay, so I'm just going to play it and we'll watch it together and then maybe you can tell me what's happening here.

0:14.0

Oh!

0:18.0

There's a way out.

0:20.0

It appears to eat two kayakers.

0:24.0

It's a short but impactful flip.

0:31.0

Back in November of 2020, two kayakers were floating peacefully in a California Bay.

0:39.0

When they were scooped up into the mouth of a humpback whale, just absolutely gulped.

0:45.0

One moment they were there, the next they were inside of a whale's mouth.

0:50.0

The video went viral and it eventually found its way to Daniel Kraus, who saw it while he was hanging out with his friends near Lake Michigan.

0:59.0

And I think because we were close to the lake, one of the friends that have you seen that viral video of the kayakers being swallowed by a whale.

1:09.0

It's one of the videos. It might have been the one you just showed.

1:12.0

The kayakers in this particular video ended up okay. They were pretty quickly spit back out.

1:19.0

But it left Daniel with this deep and unresolved question.

1:25.0

It's the idea to suddenly hit me and I was like, is it possible to be actually swallowed, swallowed?

1:32.0

And if so, what would happen? Like, could you get out?

1:40.0

I'm Dylan Thoris and this is Atlas Obscura, a celebration of the world's strange, incredible, and wondrous places.

1:46.0

Today, I'm talking to author Daniel Kraus. He's a writer who let this one question lead him into the place we're going today.

1:54.0

Deep underwater, through the mouth, and into the stomach of a whale.

2:00.0

To find out what might actually happen if you were swallowed.

2:05.0

If you were to stay inside the second stomach too long, yeah, you would be dissolved.

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