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The Chuck ToddCast: Meet the Press

A Warning For American Democracy: How Trump Is Following Putin's Corruption Blueprint

The Chuck ToddCast: Meet the Press

Chuck Todd

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🗓️ 30 April 2025

⏱️ 80 minutes

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Summary

Chuck Todd is joined by Dr. Jodi Vittori to discuss whether the United States has become a kleptocracy.

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0:00.0

happy Wednesday, happy day one of the second 100 days of the Trump administration.

0:09.7

I got a fascinating interview coming up today with a woman by the name of Jody Vittori.

0:15.5

She's a military veteran. She's a professor in practice for global politics and with a concentration on national

0:22.0

security issues at Georgetown University. But she spent a lion's share of her career in the military,

0:27.7

educated at the Air Force and Academy. And she's a specialist in kleptocracies and actually,

0:33.8

you know, how democracies get corrupted. And she wrote a pretty provocative piece for

0:39.8

foreign affairs about that issue. Is America creeping into a kleptocracy? You've probably heard

0:46.2

me use that word. I said that in 2024, at a minimum, that Donald Trump had turned the

0:51.3

Republican Party in some ways into a kleptocracy.

0:54.6

I don't think we're there yet as a country. But when you have, when you have things like

0:58.8

this inaugural fund that law firms have to pay into, in order to keep the government off

1:05.5

their back, that would pretty much put you into that in, in that category where you might be arguing that we are we are

1:15.2

creeping into that so look it's a it's a long conversation i want to get into that but before i get

1:19.7

into that i want to talk a little bit about the second hundred days because i think in fairness to

1:24.9

him you know look i've been highly critical because i think this has been a disastrous start. This is not because whether I support him or oppose them. This is just political incompetence, how they've gone about this. Yes, I think it's economic incompetence too. But if this was the plan, they've executed the plan extraordinarily poorly, right? There was a way to do government

1:45.8

reform better and more secure. There was a way to do tariffs better. There was probably a way to

1:50.9

order, reorder his agenda, but he chose not to do it. And there's a fundamental part of his

1:56.5

presidency that strikes me as a bit lazy, that he is kind of mailing it in. And you know,

2:01.5

one way you can see this, that Donald Trump is now mailing in the presidency? It's his travel

2:07.0

schedule for the first hundred days. He marked the 100th day with a trip to Michigan.

2:11.4

What's shocking about his trip to Michigan is that that's the first, essentially, it's the

2:17.4

first battleground state he's bothered to visit since the beginning of his term.

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