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The Town with Matthew Belloni

A Warner Bros. Antitrust Debate With Senator Elizabeth Warren, and the Oscars Go to... YouTube

The Town with Matthew Belloni

The Ringer

Society & Culture

4.31.1K Ratings

🗓️ 17 December 2025

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Matt is joined by United States Senator Elizabeth Warren to discuss what should happen to Warner Bros., why it should not go to Netflix or Paramount Skydance, whether Democrats and Republicans could unite to block this sale, and how Hollywood should fight to survive in the era of big tech consolidation (02:08). Matt finishes the show reacting to the Oscars moving exclusively to YouTube in 2029 (25:29). For a 20 percent discount on Matt’s Hollywood insider newsletter, ‘What I’m Hearing ...,’ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠click here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.Email us your thoughts! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠thetown@spotify.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Host: Matt Belloni Guest: Senator Elizabeth Warren Producers: Craig Horlbeck and Jessie LopezTheme Song: Devon Renaldo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:22.7

We've been so focused on which of the bids for Warner Brothers Discovery will ultimately win.

0:27.5

Will it be Netflix, which has a deal to buy the studio and HBO Max for $83 billion?

0:32.2

Or will it be Paramount and the Ellison, who want to buy the whole company for more than $100 billion,

0:36.1

but got their bid rejected this morning? But what if the answer to who will buy Warner's is neither? Seems implausible at this

0:43.5

point. Companies in play. But that's what Senator Elizabeth Warren is fighting for. Warren is the

0:48.3

Democrat from Massachusetts and a longtime antitrust activist, not a big fan of mergers in general.

0:55.2

And she's been particularly vocal about the sale of Warner Brothers. This deal looks like an anti-monopoly nightmare, she said

1:01.1

when the Netflix deal was announced. A Netflix Warner Brothers would create one massive media

1:05.9

giant with control of close to half the streaming market, threatening to force Americans

1:10.6

and to higher subscription prices,

1:12.8

fewer choices over what and how they watch

1:15.1

while putting American workers at risk.

1:18.4

She's not alone, of course.

1:19.5

Lots of Republican lawmakers have come out against Netflix WBD,

1:23.1

certainly would create a streaming behemoth.

1:25.7

But also the Ellisons have their Trump and GOP relationships, and Warren has been equally vocal against the Paramount bid,

1:32.6

even calling out the Ellisons on Stephen Colbert's show on their own CBS network.

1:36.9

But what power does Warren actually have here?

1:39.5

And is it realistic to just say no to any M&A opportunity for Warner Discovery,

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