Welcome to the podcast Think Vivically, conversations on faith and culture.

I'm your host, Sean McDowell, Professor of Christian Apology Edics at

Talbot School of Theology Biola University.

And I'm your co-host Scott Ray, Dean of Faculty and Professor of Christian Ethics

also at Talbot School of The theology at viola University.

We're here today with a guest that both Scott and I have been looking forward to

for a long time joining us.

David Bennett has written a wonderful new book called A War of Loves.

He also speaks, he writes regularly, and we want to talk about this book, A War of Loves

today.

You're also connected with Ravi, Zachakarice, International Ministries, but first off, David,

thanks for taking the time to join us all the way from Greece.

Well, it's such a pleasure to be with you both.

It's, yes, I'm calling from Athens, Greece. I've just come back from a lovely Greek

meal, so ready for your questions. Well, we appreciate you interrupting your holiday for us.

Oh no, it's a welcome interruption, definitely.

Well, I loved your book.

I'm honored that you gave me the chance to endorse it.

But let me ask you about the title. I thought it was so intriguing. Why call

your book A War of Loves? You know, I think when I was writing the book, I wanted a title that could reflect what it's like to be a Christian in the world, I think in a general sense, but also primarily what it's like to be a same sex attracted or gay Christian, especially one like myself who's come from a non-believing

atheistic background and then becoming a Christian

that there's this kind of

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