Hi there. We have a rerun of one of my favourite and chicest shows today. Enjoy.

Welcome to Women Who Travel. I'm Lale Arakoglu. I'm very excited because today we're recording an episode I've wanted to make for a long time. And that's how to pack with help from Vogue.

I'm joined today by Chloe Mal. She's the new editor of Vogue.com and the host of Vogue's podcast,

The Run Through with Vogue. Welcome, Chloe.

Thank you, Lolli.

I'm so excited to be here.

I love talking about packing.

Don't we all?

Or at least I love complaining about packing.

So we have a lot of questions in our inbox from listeners and some from your listeners too.

Great.

But I would love to start talking about you and your relationship to travel.

Working for Vogue obviously makes anyone think that you're going to be traveling around the world

for your job. I don't know if that's true. But I'm interested to know what your relationship to

travel is both in your personal life and in work. So I was very lucky growing up. It was very much

just my mom and I living together and my father lived, we live in Los Angeles. My father lived in Paris. So we traveled often from when I was very little to see him. And so I feel like my mother and I are always a good travel team. Although she now that I have young kids has reminded me that she used to

travel in matching ponchos for me and her because I vomited so often that she would have

extra clothing and full ponchos like through the airport. Which doesn't sound as glamorous as my

memory of it. I was going to say this transatlantic trip to Paris.

Yes, exactly.

Not as chic as one would quite imagine.

No, it's like a Paddington situation.

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