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The Investigation

"A Very Troublesome Telephone Call"

The Investigation

ABC News

News, Politics

3.6739 Ratings

🗓️ 12 November 2019

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

The impeachment process for a sitting president can be a daunting task. Just ask Arkansas Governor Asa Hutchinson, formerly a Congressman from Arkansas who served on the House Judiciary Committee during impeachment proceedings against Clinton. Hutchinson, who was one of 13 "prosecutors" – referred to as House Managers- during Clinton's impeachment trial in the Senate, sits down for an interview with "The Investigation" co-hosts Chris Vlasto and John Santucci. "It [was] an unwise call," Hutchinson said, referring to that July 25th phone call between President Trump and Ukrainian president Zelenskiy, adding "but that doesn't mean that a president ought to be impeached." As the House gears up for two days of the first public testimony surrounding the impeachment inquiry, Hutchinson reminds: "you cannot impeach a sitting president without the support of the American public...you’re not going to gain the confidence of the American public without having public testimony." ABC News senior congressional correspondent Mary Bruce also joins.

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0:00.0

Welcome to The Investigation.

0:08.8

I'm Chris Flastow, senior executive producer here at ABC News and your podcast co-host.

0:13.9

I'm joined by John Santucci, senior editorial producer who's been covering Donald Trump

0:19.1

since the day he went down that escalator.

0:21.6

It's going to be a very historic week here in Washington as the House impeachment inquiry goes

0:27.1

public. For the first time, these witnesses that have been behind closed door are going to

0:32.5

face the cameras and face the American people, and the Democrats are going to try to outline their case and make

0:39.0

their case to the American people for impeachment. But before we get to that, we actually have

0:44.8

the governor of Arkansas, Asa Hutchinson. And I first met Asa Hutchinson when he was a congressman

0:50.8

from Arkansas on the House Judiciary Committee, and he was a House

0:56.0

manager during the impeachment of Bill Clinton.

1:00.1

And what the House manager did back then, they were the ones, they were the prosecutors.

1:04.5

They were the ones that presented the case before the Senate and actually made their case

1:09.8

for impeachment.

1:10.8

So he has a unique perspective on this.

1:13.1

Governor, before we begin, I'm going to play a tape of something you said back 20 years ago about

1:19.1

the impeachment of Bill Clinton.

1:20.8

Okay, I'm Asa Hutchinson from Arkansas, member of the House Judiciary Committee.

1:26.0

This is certainly a difficult time for everyone in our nation.

1:28.3

It is particularly a difficult time for those on Capitol Hill.

1:32.3

And because of the difficult nature of what we face,

1:35.3

it's important for the shrill voices to end so that we can do our constitutional duty.

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