Hi everyone and welcome. I am joined today by Alexander Merkiris and Professor John

Meersheimer. It's good to see the both of you again.

So I was thinking today as with all eyes on Ukraine and the Middle East and of course the US election with uncertainty of what a Trump presidency will look like and how it will affect the world, I thought perhaps we could first take a glance at China, not just China, but also the wider Asia as a region, simply because this is where it's becoming the center of geopolitical gravity.

And also because Yu-John, well, not recently, but a few weeks ago, got back from visiting both China and Indonesia and

from reading in the media they

had

you stayed also with the

president of Indonesia

shared your views

on how they could

handle this position of being this large non-aligned state,

especially in this current rivalry between the United States and China.

So I was wondering what you can share from your view about what's happening in Asia.

Obviously, some of your conversations perhaps are private, but your views are, what you can share from your view about what's happening in Asia.

Obviously, some of your conversations perhaps are private, but your views on political theory and what's happening in the region is, I guess, up for grabs.

Okay, Glenn, I'll say a few words about China, and then we can go back and forth, the three of us.

And then if you want to talk about Indonesia, because that's a different case than the Chinese case for all the obvious reasons.

My sense is that the Chinese understand that they are engaged in an intense security competition with the United States

and that it's not going to end anytime soon,

and that if anything, it'll probably get worse with the passage of time.

My main takeaway from my visit is that the Chinese belief, unsurprisingly, that the United States is responsible for the problem.

Lots of Chinese believe that China can rise peacefully, and the fact that that's not happening, and instead you have this

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