A U.S.-China Cold War, With Robin Niblett

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Council on Foreign Relations

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🗓️ 23 July 2024

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Sir Robin Niblett, distinguished fellow at Chatham House, sits down with James M. Lindsay to discuss a potential second Cold War between the United States and China. Mentioned on the Episode Graham Allison, Destined for War: Can American and China Escape Thucydides’ Trap? Barry Buzan, “A New Cold War? The Case for a General Concept,” International Politics Robin Niblett, “The G-7 Must Prepare Now for Trump,” Foreign Policy Robin Niblett, The New Cold War: How the Contest Between the US and China Will Shape Our Century Robin Niblett and Leslie Vinjamuri, “The Liberal Order Begins at Home,” Foreign Affairs Jake Sullivan, “Remarks by National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan on Renewing American Economic Leadership at the Brookings Institution,” April 27, 2023 Jake Sullivan, “The Sources of American Power: A Foreign Policy for a Changed World,” Foreign Affairs For an episode transcript and show notes, visit The President’s Inbox at: https://www.cfr.org/podcasts/us-china-cold-war-robin-niblett

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0:00.0	Welcome to the President's Inbox, a CFR podcast about the foreign policy challenges facing the United States.
0:09.4	I'm Jim Lindsay, Director's Studies at the Council on Foreign Relations. This week's topic is a U.S.-China Cold War.
0:28.0	With me to discuss what may be a second Cold War, this time between the United States and China, is Sir Robin Nibblett.
0:39.7	Robin is a distinguished fellow with Chatham House, or as it is formerly known, the Royal Institute of International Affairs, and a senior advisor with Hacklett, the London-based strategic advisory firm. Robin was executive of Chathamhouser 15 years from 2007 to 2022.
0:49.0	He has written widely and well in British, European, and U.S. foreign policy. In 2022, Robin was appointed
0:58.1	Knight Commander of the Order of St. Michael and St. George in the Queen's Platinum Jubilee
1:04.6	2022 birthday honors in recognition of his services to international relations in British foreign policy.
1:12.7	Robin is the author of the new book, The New Cold War, How the Contest Between the U.S. and
1:18.2	China will shape our century. It was published in the United Kingdom in March, and it'll
1:24.2	be published here in the United States next month.
1:29.5	Robin, thank you very much for joining me.
1:30.5	Jim, it's a pleasure.
1:31.7	Fantastic to be with you.
1:34.0	I take it from the title of your book,
1:39.4	that you believe that the United States and China are embroiled in a new Cold War.
1:40.2	How so?
1:46.6	You could argue that it's been driven principally by the classic international relations conundrum of a major rising power seeking to overthrow the primacy of the existing major power,
1:55.2	the classic Thucydides trap as described by Professor Graham Allison.
2:00.0	So I'm going to take that, given you have a knowledgeable
2:02.1	audience of this podcast as a given. We see plenty of manifestations of that dynamic underway from
2:09.9	the South China Sea right into the halls of the UN. But the point I'm making my book on the
2:15.7	argument I'm making is that there is an ideological
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