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Hello and welcome to another episode of National Security magazine. I'm your host David Rothkoff. And I am pleased to be joined today by Congressman Jim

Himes of Connecticut, who is a member of the Committee on Financial Services, and perhaps

more relevant to our discussion, a member of the House

permanent select committee on Intelligence, Congressman Himes, as I'm sure familiar to all of you,

from the plethora of hearings that we've gone through recently.

And I'd like, if it's okay with you, Congressman, to begin by commenting on the fact that, you know,

it seems that the impeachment

hearings have intensified recently, not just with the pace of

of witnesses coming in or the fact that a number of the witnesses are coming

in despite the efforts of the White House or the State Department.

But as facts are revealed, it seems that in particular this Ukraine case is touching more

and more people in the administration, the president,

potentially the vice president, as Secretary of State,

...