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I'm Ed Vasey, and we're going to be unpacking the politics of the day and the stuff even more important than politics from the Trump-Musk divorce to where the sheik is dead and why Liz Truss is starting to scare America.

With me in the studio are two of the chicest columnists at the times.

Michael Binion, welcome to the show. Thank you. And Cindy, you, welcome to the show, Cindy.

Michael, I gather you're morphing into Hugo Rifkin. So it seems, when he's away, but I've got to do

some training because you switch all

these right knobs at the right time so that the studio can't hear you. I'm sure that I would have

the studio, you know, managers broadcasting all over the world at the wrong time and forget to

read out the ads. So I've got to see how it goes. You'll get a record audience as people wait

with baited breath to see whether

you can switch the right knob. Yeah, that'd be quite tricky. I think I'll, oh, hats off to you.

Don't cut me off now. Cindy, you welcome to the show. It's the first time you've been on with me anyway.

Nice to meet you, Ed. You wrote a column that really, I think

resonated is the wrong word as I'm a white middle class male, but you wrote a column about

being Chinese and how you're kind of treated even though you're British. Yes, yes. Say a bit about

that because I thought it was really fascinating. I came to the UK when I was nine years old,

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